In the latest episode of the Kristol Clear podcast, editor Bill Kristol speaks with Michael Graham about the terrible week for Donald Trump—and why the Republican nominee may not deserve to be counted out yet. Kristol also talks about why Hillary Clinton, running as a third term of Barack Obama, offers voters a terrible choice in a year when the electorate seems to be clamoring for change.

What about the question of voting for the "lesser of two evils"? Kristol says people should not feel compelled to make that choice and offers a way for Americans disgusted with both presidential candidates a way around it.

The podcast can also be downloaded here.