Special counsel John Durham is digging up evidence of an "incestuous relationship" underlying the so-called Russiagate scandal, according to a former House Republican.

Jason Chaffetz, guest-hosting Fox News's Sunday Morning Futures, talked about the latest developments from the politically charged criminal investigation with current members of Congress, focusing on the case against Democratic cybersecurity lawyer Michael Sussmann.

Sussmann was indicted last September for allegedly concealing his clients — Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and “Tech Executive-1,” known to be former Neustar executive Rodney Joffe — from FBI general counsel James Baker in September 2016 when he presented internet data that suggested a now-debunked Trump-Russia link. Sussmann denies any wrongdoing and has pleaded not guilty.

"The allegation here is that Michael Sussmann got in with a meeting with the general counsel there at the Federal Bureau of Investigation by representing that he wasn't representing anybody," Chaffetz said during an interview with Rep. Andy Biggs.

"But there's other documentation and flow of money and logs and whatnot," he added. "That's why this is a case that is important, because these people had this incestuous relationship to be able to actually go in and access things that other people that are on the receiving end of these — of these types of prosecutions don't get to do."

Chaffetz is a former Republican representative from Utah who was a member of Congress from 2009 to 2017, serving as chairman of the House Oversight Committee in his final years there.


After the judge presiding over the case denied Sussmann's attempt to dismiss, Durham revealed in a court filing late Friday that a government agency, identified in media reports as the CIA, found data from Sussmann indicating that coordination between former President Donald Trump and Russia was "not technically plausible" and "user created." Durham also said "the Special Counsel’s Office has not reached a definitive conclusion in this regard."

Beyond the correspondence with the FBI, Durham said in a prior filing that Sussmann later “provided an updated set of allegations — including the Russian Bank-1 data and additional allegations relating to Trump,” to the agency believed to be the CIA. The Russian bank is Alfa Bank. The government expects to "adduce evidence at trial" that will reflect that the FBI and the CIA "concluded that the Russian Bank 1 allegations were untrue and unsupported," Durham said on Friday.

Biggs, a Republican from Arizona, was asked to share what he has heard about the case.

"I'm hearing that there's some emails that Durham has found that, again, show that they're — that Sussmann lied to the FBI and that he also lied and misrepresented regarding the connection of all of this with DNC, which is the Democratic National Committee, and the Clinton campaign and who paid for his bogus information that he was throwing out there," Biggs said.

"So, it's pretty interesting to see. And I'm not sure that the Clinton campaign folks or the Democratic Party wants to see this go to trial and air their dirty laundry even further," he added.


Durham has two active prosecutions, including a case against the main source for British ex-spy Christopher Steele's anti-Trump dossier and the case against Sussmann, whose trial is scheduled to begin May 16.

Some allies of Trump suspect Durham is building a conspiracy case that will envelop people in and around Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. Clinton has denounced what she dubbed a “fake scandal" stemming from Durham's investigation, though she was vocal about the Alfa Bank allegations when they began to emerge publicly in the closing weeks of the 2016 election.